What I'd really like is Cloister with it's PDF viewing etc coupled with Endnote's integration with Word (and hopefully, eventually, Pages with its superior page layout functions). You're right, BibTex doesn't look that useful for me. Originally posted by gaomay:Thanks simifilm. So if I could have an app which did all of the above and was stable and snappy, I'd be in bug heaven!! Indeed, most of them won't even accept PDFs. I can't use LaTex because many of the microbiology journals insist on. Exporting to Pages certainly is a no-go at the moment. If you don't use LaTeX, I wouldn't really good for a BibTeX-only solution.As for exporting from Cloister: It seems to me that you can't do any exporting at all at the moment. Some general advice: Although it is extremely powerful in combination with LaTeX, BibTex itself isn't such a great format. Can someone point me to a site which explains BibTex plz?Can I export refs from Cloister to Pages? This page might be a good start. Quote:Originally posted by simifilm:quote:Originally posted by gaomay:OK I just got Cloister and I'm very impressed. Have only looked at it briefly, looks very nice, but seems unfinished. I just discovered Cloister which seems to adress the same problem. The keywords are not part of the PDF metadata but are stored in the bibtex file, but I guess that's not a problem. So a folder 'papers I cite in paper 3' is easy to track? Keywords are standard bibtex fields, so there's no problem here. Can you assign keywords in a similar fashion? So a paper 'Mann et al.' that was used as a reference in your 3rd, 4th, and 6th paper could have keywords 'Paper 3' etc. Quote:Originally posted by Nevyn:quote:Originally posted by simifilm:Similarly to iTunes, BibDesk will completely take care of your papers and manage your publication directory. I do have the DOI numbers there, along with the abstracts, so I can usually find the article bloody quickly anyway.But having proper metadata would be nice, either as XMP, or as one or more attachments to the file (a bibtex file with the proper citation information, or in BibML.Maarten I've though about adding the file-name to my BibTeX database, but I couldn't be bothered. As what I currently do: I make sure I regularly index the folder in which I have collected papers I read, and use the find by content. I've banged on about why this is a good idea and some of the challenges here: proof of concept I'm using includexmp and includepdf to chuck MODS-XML metadata (which isn't even RDF so not valid XMP but for my proof of concept that doesn't matter) into a PDF.
I just received a messaged today from someone working on the same thoughts:From the message I received: quote:I want to use these together to include metadata about academic papers inside the PDF file.
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